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https://bit.ly/3npJ5IA https://bit.ly/3K7L8uV https://bit.ly/3GxJ5Oy https://bit.ly/3fmTosD https://bit.ly/3npJ8UM https://bit.ly/3tmKFyW https://bit.ly/3rhSyTE https://bit.ly/33ziYbo I don't think the fact that a man needs to be worthy of that trust makes it any less of a gift. Just because you wouldn't give it to everyone, doesn't make it less of a gracious token at all. I also think a man's dominance is a gift, no matter how much a part of his personality it is. It may be as natural as breathing to me to take care of my family and others but that doesn't make my nurturing them less of a blessing or any less generous. Even if it is in my nature to give someone something, it is still a gift, to my mind. Perhaps I have misunderstood your point? Otter* "The moment that I looked into your eyes, you owned me." -Kenny Chesney by Otter on 2005 Sep 7 - 18:39 | reply to this comment Submission as a gift Hi Otter, I certainly do not seek to in any way denigrate the value of a womans submission - submission is something I value very highly. I guess that submission is something that I equate to love and I don't see love as a gift - more a compulsion. I don't choose to love my partner - I can't help but love her and I don't think she can choose to submit to me. She submits because she has to - because she is naturally submissive, because she loves me, because she trusts me, because she views me as her 'alpha male', and so on. All these things add up within her to a compulsion to be submissive towards me. To me, considering submission to be a gift brings to mind a woman saying to herself "this man is worthy, therefore I will give him my gift of submission". That seems to me to be somehow false. Also as I asked before, if submission is a gift, is not the same true of dominance? Having said all that, it is really just a question of semantics and personal opinion so I am not saying you are wrong - I'm just expressing a personal view. by David in NZ on 2005 Sep 7 - 22:44 | reply to this comment Submission is a gift, to David Hi David,
